[Bleacher Report] 76ers don’t want to deal PF Al Horford because of Bucks
[–]76ers forthestreamz 3243 指標 13小時前
someone please tell the front office that they:
a) need to win at least 1 series before they play the Bucks
b) will play at least 1 more series if they do beat the Bucks
[–]Bucks The_Sign_of_Zeta 183 指標 13小時前*
I mean, even if Horford *would help against the Bucks, that doesn’t matter much if you lose in the 1st round, which is more likely than unlikely at this point as the 6th seed.
[–][BOS] Pete Maravich LTweet 1388 指標 12小時前
Jokes on you, Elton is gunning for that 8 seed
[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 280 指標 11小時前
Feels like that Horford contract is going to look horrible within two years.
He’s almost 34 and he already looks a little slower.
[–]76ers DJToastyBuns 251 指標 11小時前
[–]76ers SonicdaSloth 111 指標 11小時前*
tbf he looked fine until a knee thing earlier in the year and then again for a stretch leading into the Lakers game. Come of there with a sore knee again and looks like grandpa Al.
doesn’t help that our base matchups vs Boston had him guarding Jaylen
[–]Salty-Flamingo 89 指標 10小時前
This was Al’s story last season. He looks great when his knee isn’t bothering him – but it seems to bother him a lot. I don’t seem to remember too many big men aged 32+ with knee problems who got better. This is the beginning of the end for Al.
[–]TheTranquil Beavers 16 指標 10小時前
He’s had that knee issue for a while now, but I’m surprised at how quickly it has accelerated this year. He looks like he’s on the brink of retirement out there at times, it’s a real shame.
[–]76ers SonicdaSloth 41 指標 10小時前
team trying to squeeze the last drop out of Al.
[–]Raptors Shoelesshobos 13 指標 8小時前
Learn to manage them loads.
Teach Al the ways of Kawhi.
[–]goblinsholiday 42 指標 11小時前
Well, if kawhi missed that shot, they would’ve won the series even though the game was tied, and because Nurse found a way to stop Giannis clearly the Sixers would’ve too, then GS would’ve been a cakewalk even though they were well rested and had just come off of a sweep of Portland
[–]Lakers Johnnythewinner 27 指標 10小時前
I don’t think there’s anyone in this league with the combination of size and speed of Kawhi that can also go 40 mpg while carrying the offense. Bucks would’ve beaten the Sixers imo
[–]Hawks custom-concern 114 指標 10小時前
The Bucks may be the best team in the league though. If the goal is to win a title, you’ll have to beat them. No point in building a team good enough to get to them, then lose. Just go for broke.
[–]limitmypot 46 指標 10小時前
Hard to imagine any team that is able to beat the Bucks not having a chance to win at all.
[–]Hawks custom-concern 36 指標 9小時前
Exactly. I’d much rather be in the position of beating the bucks, then coming into the finals as an underdog than just losing to the bucks. If the 6ers really see Horford as their best/only chance to match up against the Bucks then they should absolutely keep him.
[–]Wizards acosmichippo 62 指標 11小時前
Don’t you think he’d also be useful against the Lakers?
[–]76ers forthestreamz 197 指標 11小時前
for what, defending the offensive juggernauts Dwight Howard and Javale McGee?
[–]Cavaliers bball62 23 指標 11小時前
Dwight and Javale would destroy Al on the glass
[–]Wizards acosmichippo 165 指標 11小時前*
I mean… yeah. Just competing with their size, rim running, rebounding, etc. Stretching the floor a bit on offense.
[–]Bucks kyleb402 302 指標 12小時前
I mean, Horford didn’t exactly do much to limit Giannis in the playoffs last year.
[–][PHI] Markelle Fultz phillyphiend 91 指標 11小時前
I think it’s more about having the ability to roll out a lineup with two to three players capable of slowing down Giannis for 48 minutes every night. Also, being able to have multiple players in a lineup switch onto Giannis with no problem or having two 7 footers double team him when he gets into the paint are valuable tools to have in the defensive scheme
[–]Lakers kok823 26 指標 12小時前
If horford is so good Boston would have kept him. They’re contending as well.
[–]76ers forthestreamz 43 指標 12小時前
he’s still good he’s just not a power forward
[–]Thunder moneybooy[S] 17 指標 12小時前
But didn´t he say he prefers to play the 4?
[–]76ers forthestreamz 140 指標 12小時前
he did, doesn’t mean he’s good at it
[–]76ers sixplaysforadollar 49 指標 12小時前
Yeah cuz he dont wanna guard big ass bruising dudes. Cant blame him
[–]Celtics rajistheman69420 20 指標 11小時前
So does AD
Doesn’t change the fact that they’re both better at the 5
[–]Celtics Suzoku 315 指標 12小時前
We tried, but Philly gave him way more money and you can’t fault a guy for getting the bag. Also he wasn’t aware about Kemba when he made the commitment to Philly.
[–]Celtics NervousPervis 18 指標 12小時前
He was an unrestricted free agent and chose to leave. Cs prioritized Kemba and it made it difficult to work things out with Al. I think we probably wanted him back, but it just didn’t happen.
[–]Celtics dogmaDRP 104 指標 11小時前
He hinted that he would’ve considered staying in Boston for less if he knew about the Kemba deal before signing with Philly
[–]Raptors JevvyMedia 136 指標 11小時前
Horford says a lot of things, like saying he would have joined OKC if KD stayed. We all know Horford wants $$$
[–]Magic CharlieKellyKapowski 65 指標 11小時前
Who doesnt want $$$
[–][BOS] Jayson Tatum MemeForce1 9 指標 8小時前
As much as I miss him, he absolutely should pursue the biggest payday possible. NBA careers don’t last forever.
[–]Celtics Remembory 161 指標 12小時前
Horford’s greatest strength is nullified by being in a new system with new, established stars. If you watched Al Horford play as a Celtic, you’d see him pointing, talking, pushing young players into their spots on defense, etc. Multiple times per game you’d see him use his hands to direct other players to their spots.
I’m not sure you can expect someone to fulfill that role as the new guy on a team with established stars?
[–]The_A_Hole_Team 44 指標 10小時前
Exactly how I feel. Al is a great player. Not to say he’s a system player but he did fit into the Celtics defense perfectly. If you’re paying a 33 year old horford to stop giannis you’re pretty dumb.
[–]Lakers Trumppered 57 指標 12小時前
Am I remembering wrong or weren’t 76ers fans mostly ecstatic about this signing when it happened?
[–]76ers ItsAMeEric 16 指標 11小時前
I still think it is a good signing, and if they can figure out how to play together in the 2nd half of the season, so will all the Sixers fans shitting on him now (and they will have a sudden memory loss of ever disliking him)
[–][TOR] Jose Calderon MasaiGotUsNow 12 指標 11小時前
I can’t believe they paid him that much
of course Al is a good player but he’s 33. That’s insane
[–]76ers Wentzsylvania13 1607 指標 13小時前
I, for one, absolutely love our $109 million backup center. Elton "Galaxy Brain" Brand is just 5 steps ahead of the rest of the NBA
[–]Celtics Confirmation__Bias 919 指標 13小時前
I mean, everything you just said about him was true when you signed him too, and yet you guys loved the signing when it happened. He was a $109 million backup center from the beginning and we tried to tell you it was a huge overpay
[–]76ers Dworfe 24 指標 13小時前
Al’s contract is fine. Philly has to make the Finals for his 4th year to be guaranteed more than $14.5m and they have to win the finals for it to become fully guaranteed. The contact is
Win finals: 4 years $109m; final year $26.5m
Reach finals: 4 years $102m; final year $19.5m
No finals: 4 years $97m; Final year $14.5m
[–]Mavericks rustyphish 77 指標 12小時前
4 years $97 million is still bonkers for Al Horford. He’s not worth $25 mil/year at his age
[–][PHI] Clarence Weatherspoon theytook-r-jobs 171 指標 13小時前
Everyone knew it was a huge overpay with his age, they just thought he could probably play next to Embiid because of his shooting, while taking the center minutes when Joel is out and being injury insurance. And if we win a title this year or next it’s worth the overpay.
[–]Celtics Confirmation__Bias 143 指標 13小時前
Horford could’ve played the 4 well like three years ago… not now…
His shooting is good for a center but at the 4 he’s a mediocre shooter at best in today’s NBA.
[–]East loudanduneducated 97 指標 13小時前
Yeah a ton of Philly fans kept saying “Horford is actually a PF” when he hasn’t played primarily as a PF since he was in college.
His defensive ability on the perimeter was definitely falling off in his last year in Boston too.
[–]76ers Wentzsylvania13 407 指標 13小時前
Myself and most other sixers fans probably thought that at least one member of our starting lineup would shoot the 3 better than 35%, considering that 3 of them have career percentages above 35%.
[–]twentysixzeroeight 160 指標 13小時前
I sometimes wonder how the team would look if they could get reddick and Covington back. They maybe have to give up too much idk how it would all work out. But I feel like they are exactly what philly is missing
[–][ATL] John Collins ShootTheMailMan 104 指標 11小時前
Would you reset to the 2017-18 76ers?
PG: Ben Simmons, T.J. McConnell, Markelle Fultz
SG: J.J. Redick, Jerryd Bayless, Marco Belinelli, Furkan Korkmaz
SF: Robert Covington, Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot, Justin Anderson
PF: Dario Saric, Ersan Ilyasova
C: Joel Embiid, Richaun Holmes, Amir Johnson
[–]twentysixzeroeight 86 指標 11小時前
No. I don’t think full reset their. I do think with Ben being more dominant even that team would be better. But I still think I’d rather have horford playing the 4 over saric. And idk my opinion on Tobias tbh
[–][ATL] John Collins ShootTheMailMan 114 指標 10小時前
The Tobias and Butler trades really decimated the Sixer’s cap, depth. That’s what I’d want in the reset.
[–]twentysixzeroeight 40 指標 10小時前
Yeah I think the butler trade really hurt them. At the time is was the right move so can’t fault them at all.
[–]kobmug_v2 1061 指標 13小時前
Sixers are far too worried about beating one team instead of just building the best possible team.
The Bucks are not the KD-era Warriors where you need to build to beat them specifically.
[–]Bucks GiannisIsTheBeast 20 指標 12小時前
The real key is to go all 3 point shooters… trade everyone for the best 3 point shooters in the league. When we lose it’s because teams set new 3 point franchise records. If I remember correctly the Sixers did that or came close to it on Christmas.
[–]HolyAty 522 指標 13小時前
To be fair, if you don’t do something special to stop Giannis, he drops 30pts in 25mins and ices the game.
[–]Clippers 2Blitz 212 指標 13小時前
What if you stop the others and just let Giannis do his thing?
[–]HolyAty 149 指標 13小時前
I don’t think anybody in the league can stop him 1v1 if other 4 people sticks to the other 4 people.
[–]Clippers 2Blitz 118 指標 13小時前
Sure but what I’m saying is, why not just let Giannis get his 30-40 points but stop the rest of his team? His 40 points would seem worthless if the rest of his team aren’t performing right?
[–]76ers Sweaty_Man 104 指標 13小時前
We did this last year and people still clown us for it. Giannis dropped 52 and lost.
[–]Bucks iFinesseThePlug 82 指標 12小時前*
But then two weeks later he dropped 45 against the Sixers and we won.
[–][BOS] Gigi Datome dk240996 24 指標 13小時前
The Kyrie-less Celtics tried that in East finals against LeBron and it worked up until Game 7, where if not for Rockets missing 27 threes in a row later on, everyone would be talking how bad our shooting night was. This Bucks team has a better supporting cast than that Cavs team had though.
[–]Raptors Soularion 180 指標 13小時前
The Bucks are an extremely strong defense. You can’t stop them by letting Giannis make them a good offense. With the exception of game 3 (where George Hill and Pat Connaughton combined for 35) the Boston series was largely defined by their inability to score; they scored 102, 101 and 91 in their other 3 losses.
Raptors vs Bucks was also a purely defensive series. With the exception of game 4 (where the bench popped off in a home must-win) the Raptors scored 96, 105 and 100 in regulation. They kept the Bucks to 96, 102, 99 and 94.
You are not holding the Bucks under a hundred points by letting Giannis have his, and you are not beating the Bucks if you let them score.
[–]Raptors everything_raptors 440 指標 13小時前
Sixers are trying to do what the raptors did last year. Have Simmons (kawhi in the raptors case) defend Giannis one on one and then have Al and Joel (gasol and ibaka/siakam) wall off the paint. It might work, but they’d have to score on the other end which might be an issue.
[–]Jmacd20 174 指標 13小時前
Simmons doesn’t see much time on Giannis, he’s primarily defended by embiid when the they play the bucks. Simmons can probably handle on a switch or to give a different look, but giannis is too much for him. I think the plan is embiid with horford getting something other minutes guarding Giannis.
[–]Raptors bigboypantss 14 指標 11小時前
Giannis bounces Simmons off him like a little kid, which always surprises me cause they aren’t that different in size.
[–]notsurewhereelse 11 指標 8小時前
Simmons obviously isn’t weak but he’s not exceptionally strong for his size whereas Giannis is bigger AND exceptionally strong for his size